I had been running 2013.1.beta.8 with php 5 on debian 11 (bulseye) until an openssl update got in the way. I have set up a vm running debian 8 (jessie) which has an older version of openssl which lets me run 2013.1.beta.8 with php 5 (albeit without my logo and cannot send email). That might be a useful way to install an old version. When I get time over the next few weeks I will have another attempt at the default template. Your insights will be very helpful. Thanks again
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